Friday, October 22, 2010

Democracy Now, here it is!!!

15 comments:

amapofthecountry said...

you were really amazing here. and so much of what Lt. Choi said actually did nothing but support your arguments! and he seemed to know this! (or was that just me?)

mattilda bernstein sycamore said...

Thank you!!!

And, I think you're right about what Dan Choi was saying, but I'm not sure if he knew it...

I know you did!

Love --
mattilda

Richard Green said...

Mattilda,

Your response simply stripped away the layers clouding the essence of the debate. Thanks for sharing such a clear, disturbingly accurate portrayal.

Might I recommended this piece from Arthur Silber: http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-i-do-not-support-troops.html

I'm guessing you will be just as taken with him as I am.

Keep up the fight.
Thanks.
Richard

mattilda bernstein sycamore said...

Richard, thank you so much!

And, I will check out that piece for sure, thanks for forwarding...

Love --
mattilda

chamblee54 said...

Oh my.
1- The lady introduced you as a lesbian activist.
2-I would like to think that you had some pull in getting this released on the same day as the wikileaks report. This is probably a coincidence, but a thought provoking one.
3- You say the US military is hurting the entire world. There is one exception...Israel.
4- Mr. Choi is a talented talking head, who has a future in politics once he is through with the military.
5- It seemed at times that you were having a parallel discussion, rather than a debate. You were discussing different things altogether. When Mr. Choi said his mother said "And as my mom is an orphan of the war, she certainly told me that your job in the military is not to create havoc, but it is to do everything that you can, possibly, at least theoretically, to create peace, to some extent." ...It is sad, really, because a lot of what Mr. Choi said was true. A lot of smalltown kids see the military as their only option. The sad truth is that this is a deal with the devil.
6- There was a saying during vietnam...fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity.
All in all, this was a good discussion, and way too short. It would be great to get you and Mr. Choi together for a longer time, maybe in the same studio. Maybe next time, you can wear the sport coat, and he can wear the pink tie.

el replicante dislèxico said...

I am an uruguayan living in L.A. for more than 9 years now and it is the first time ever that I have heard such clear arguments. I felt you represented me in so many ways. Thanks a lot!. I whish I could write in a better English what I felt when I saw you and heard you at Democracy now.
I will try to read your books.
Thanks again.
Nelson.

Josh said...

Mattilda, I also want to say that your presence on the DN debate kicked ass. As a progressive I've wondered why I'm apparently supposed to love Dan Choi when I take it that my aim should be to critique and work to change the fundamental system of domination that perpetuates violence and inequality...not fight for the right to be a cog in its machinery. By repeatedly making that point you laid bare what I think is the actually rather conservative stance of Choi and, as another post says, got to the essence of the debate. So, thanks!

mattilda bernstein sycamore said...

Chamblee, a lesbian activist, indeed! I was just glad they didn't decide to have an extended discussion about my gender pronoun choice...

Of course, everything related to the timing of the Wikileaks release must remain a secret :)

Israel, indeed -- of course the US war machine supports other war machines, client states, dictators, etc.

Of course it is true that many people join the military out of desperation and lack of other options, and that is one of the most important reasons to oppose the military, so that we can create other options. That was the point that I hope I made.

I'm not so fond of sport coats, but perhaps something could be arranged...

Nelson, I'm so glad I could represent you -- thank you so much for writing!!!

Josh, "my aim should be to critique and work to change the fundamental system of domination that perpetuates violence and inequality...not fight for the right to be a cog in its machinery." Exactly! And yes, Dan Choi's stance (and the stance of the entire gay establishment on issues like marriage, the military, strengthening the criminal legal system through hate crimes legislation, etc.) is conservative, indeed...

Love --
mattilda

jh said...

I think there needs to be an increase of this type of discussion. I have been an anti-war activist and know Camilio.

I do disagree with what your argument seemed to present; that DADT should remain in force. Please forgive me is that is not your actual opinion, however if it is I think misunderstand the full or daily impact of the policy.

One of the best examples I can provide you with is DADT being used to blackmail rape victims into silence. Many people join the military unaware of it's full implications.

mattilda bernstein sycamore said...

jh, thanks for writing!

My position is that all the attention given within the gay establishment (and now the straight left) towards the repeal of DADT actually serves pro-war aims by claiming that providing the "right" for gay people to go abroad and kill people in US wars for oil is a civil rights issue while disregarding the fact that killing people in US wars for oil is actually not a civil rights struggle.

Love--
mattilda

Campbell said...

They were talking about you today at my gf's Archives Bizarre today (so nerdy, I know). I was really excited to be able to say that I read your blog. "OMG you should read her blog." The archivists really liked your politics and thought you did a great job! You kicked ass and you did it while looking adorable in pink! Although it was really strange that they introduced you as a lesbian.

chamblee54 said...

Here is my commentary on this:
http://chamblee54.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/councilman-gets-down/
It is illustrated with lovely historic pictures, and a video from a Georgia City Council meeting. As Daniel Ellsberg might say, I couldn't have done this forty years ago.

mattilda bernstein sycamore said...

Campbell, what is Archives Bizarre? Sounds fantastic to me!

And, I'm glad I looked adorable :)

And a lesbian, indeed :)

Chamblee, so true that Daniel Ellsberg likes to say that a lot... I will check out what you couldn't have done 40 years ago, for sure...

Love --
mattilda

queerartist said...

From where I sit if we support anything to do with the military then we are standing with one of the enemies of the world. The little discrimination that L and G's face is nothing compared to the death and destruction that they will help along. Does anyone think that those who rent their clothing and cry over their dead children care anything about the discrimation that gays in the military face? Killers plain and simple. The "can't get a job" thing is a very lame excuse because someone can't get a job then its ok to go and kill. PU.

We like this quote that Queers Against War says, “Some say that we are not considering the fact that working class and poor LGBT people have a right to join the military service in order to go to college. And I say that if we believe that then we uphold centuries of oppression against poor people in stating that only the wealthy are worthy of educating without being asked to risk their very lives to do so.” Let’s think hard about that.

Yeah Mattilda continue to speak out since many of us can't get on the air waves. As always dear you are so very beautiful.

May i introduce readers to our essay on DADT found

http://queerartist.wordpress.com/2010/09/26/on-dadt-queer-enemies-no-room-to-breath-war-is-a-terrible-thing-2/

Richard from
A Few Queers On The Prowl

mattilda bernstein sycamore said...

Richard, "From where I sit if we support anything to do with the military then we are standing with one of the enemies of the world."

Absolutely!

And I like that Queers against War quote, for sure...

Thank you, always, for your support, insight, and glamour.

Love --
mattilda